Lyme destroys families: An update from Jordan Fisher Smith

jordan_update.jpg As we shot the final scenes in UNDER OUR SKIN I was trying to live without antibiotic therapy. My doctors and I had attempted this before but within a couple of weeks of quitting, each time, I quickly got worse—the memory loss, the feeling of drunkenness, the disorientation, the arthritis in my hands, feet, shoulders, and knees. The fatigue. The loud ringing in my ears. The terrible sleeplessness. The excruciating discomfort and pressure in my face and head from the sound of my own voice as I spoke. The difficulty and frustration communicating with others, in finding the right words. The exaggerated emotions. The numbness in my feet that would turn to burning pain and pins and needles, the stabbing pains in my legs and feet, and so on. But as Andy Abrahams Wilson and his crew recorded my narration for the film in late 2007 I was making it. I wasn’t getting worse. In fact I felt pretty darned good. Today, in January of 2009 I’m still off antibiotics and I’m doing well. I have so much to be thankful for. But I’ve also suffered damage to my life that cannot be undone. At the end of the movie, I say: “I still have my family.” And that didn’t turn out to be true. Prophetically, when the Open Eye Pictures crew first visited my home in 2005, my wife didn’t want to be filmed, and you don’t see her in the movie. My illness was hard for my wife. She had never taken care of a person who was sick and we both found out she wasn’t cut out for it. Lyme patients with brain problems—people who can’t sleep, people who are suffering terrible pain and discomfort, irritable people who are having trouble finding the words to express themselves—are hard to take care of, even for someone who has experience in caregiving. But the problems go farther than the individual caregiver. If someone in your neighborhood gets cancer, people show up with casseroles. Neighbors organize to support the affected family. Family members come from all over to visit and sit by the bedside of the affected person. But when someone gets Lyme, often none of this happens, and the Lyme family is terribly alone. My wife didn’t have that support, not from neighbors or friends or even our own families. Her life had not given her an opportunity to learn how to behave in an emergency, or when something difficult happened. She wasn’t going to the doctor with me, didn’t know the names or dosages of the drugs I was on. She liked being out of the house when possible. She seemed distant and out of touch. But given the terrible ignorance about Lyme around her, it’s hard to blame her for what happened. When things really got bad we went to a therapist. There I was, sitting in that therapist’s office with my central catheter taped to my chest. I’d been infusing myself with intravenous Rocephin every day. I told the therapist I had Lyme disease. But remarkably, he didn’t ask me questions about the disease and for the next two years what my wife and I got was regular marriage counseling. The illness didn’t really come up much. The therapist never spoke with my doctors to discuss the nature of my illness, never read the extensive reports on my brain problems or even asked to read them, and the result was, he didn’t know anything about Lyme or how it might affect our family life. I knew I had to get better or our family would fall apart. So I kept flying to New York for five years to see Dr. Burrascano. And in the end I got better, and it seemed like our lives were getting better too. But then, in the summer of 2008 my wife fell in love with someone else and in the fall of 2008 she left me for her new lover. Now we’re going through a divorce. I hear about this often from Lyme families. The tragedy is larger than the thousands of Lyme victims themselves. Lyme is also destroying families, and the really sad thing is, a serious illness is when people need their families the most. In December, ten years after my tick bite on duty as a ranger, State Compensation Insurance Fund (the insurance company you see in the movie sending me to one of their doctors) finally settled my worker’s compensation case. I thought now I’d get taken care of, no matter what happened. But this month they cut off all of my prescriptions, saying my doctor hadn’t turned in the right paperwork. We’re trying to get the prescriptions back, but to this day the insurance company has never reimbursed me for ten thousand dollars of medical bills and travel expenses I incurred during my last couple of years of seeing Dr. Burrascano. These problems with medical insurance and worker’s compensation are larger than Lyme. They are the failures of a system of medicine where giant corporations call the shots on your health care, telling your doctor what he or she can or cannot do for you. Let’s hope the Obama administration and the new Congress can do something about this perverse situation. But I’m still here, I’m better, and I still have my children, James and Emma, whom you see running up the rocks with me at the end of the movie. My book Nature Noir got fabulous reviews and even was briefly on the national bestseller list. Now I’m working on an exciting new book about American wilderness for Random House. I do some work for magazines from time to time and also lecture in various parts of the country on the outdoors, environment, national parks, wilderness, and, you guessed it: Lyme. Through the movie I have met Mandy, Dana, Elise, and Kris and we have shared our stories, and not without a few tears and a good many hugs. I have met Dr. Jemsek, Dr. Jones, and Dr. MacDonald. And I have had the pleasure of watching the young ballet dancer Marlena Connors—whom you see in the movie taking her first halting steps out of her wheelchair toward Dr. Jones—walk gracefully across a stage in high heels to a standing ovation from one of our New York audiences. Working on UNDER OUR SKIN has been one of the great experiences of my life. Thanks to Open Eye Pictures and Turn the Corner Foundation—a Lyme-related charity that supported production and distribution of UNDER OUR SKIN—we who appeared in the movie have been given a way to help others face the terror of tick-borne disease, to help prevent future cases, and perhaps, if we’re really lucky, to transform the politics around Lyme disease.

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There are really two

There are really two questions here: what do rats carry that you could get directly from them or their nests, and what to the arthropods (ticks) that rats carry, carry! The standard practice for dealing with areas that have rodent nests now in the American west and southwest, to the best of my knowledge, is if you have to do it, wear a protective dust mask, gloves, long-sleeved clothes, and wash yourself and your clothing immediately thereafter. And watch for ticks and fleas on you. As your question indicates you may be well aware that dusky-footed woodrats and a couple of species of pinon mouse, not deer as is true in the East, are the principal reservoirs of Lyme disease here in California.


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I sympathize with your

I sympathize with your experience, as my daughter and son-in-law sat me down like an errant child when I told them that I had Lyme and that I wanted to sell the farm where I had been infected (where I was bitten at least once a day for 13 years!).  They told me that 1) I didn't have Lyme, because it is cured with 28 days of antibiotics, 2) I can't sell the farm because it is a legacy to my children and they wanted it for themselves, and 3) they don't want to be around me and don't want to visit me because I'm too "negative," always "complaining" about being sick.  She never asks how I'm doing, she only worries that I'm going to spend too much money on treatment and will spend her "inheritance."  When we need the support of our families the most, having Lyme exposes the cracks and chinks in our relationships that were always there. A saying I took to heart is that the relationship "is what it is. . . it isn't what it should have been, it isn't what it could have been, it is what it is. . ."   My daughter has now set up some proposed "rules" for me before she will visit, that I use some sort of "happy statement" at the end of my sentences so she doesn't have to dwell on the fact that I'm struggling with a life-threatening illness. I laugh and cry at the same time at the ridiculousness of this dictate.  All of us who have Lyme and who are struggling along and received great inspiration from your story are pulling for you and your continued recovery.

Illnesses of all kinds are

Illnesses of all kinds are hard on families, and lyme is especially hard because of the controversy, the expense, and the fact that it just exhausts everyone's patience. My own family never asks about my condition and so far has not read the books or watched the DVD. Kentucky artists

is there any way to get help

is there any way to get help for my cousin he is going through lyme/autoimmune/myostinia/ so many things he has been told any info or contacts would be f help 770-882-8461

 

is there any way to get help

is there any way to get help for my cousin he is going through lyme/autoimmune/myostinia/ so many things he has been told any info or contacts would be f help 770-882-8461

 

A double blind, randomized,

A double blind, randomized, placebo-controlled multicenter clinical study indicated three weeks of treatment with intravenous ceftriaxone, followed by 100 days of treatment with oral amoxicillin did not improve symptoms any more than just three weeks of treatment with ceftriaxone. The researchers noted the outcome should not be evaluated after the initial antibiotic treatment, but rather 6–12 months afterwards. In patients with chronic posttreatment symptoms, persistent positive levels of antibodies did not seem to provide any useful information for further care of the patient.

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Narconon

thanks for sharing this

thanks for sharing this post.......

Great cmmoon sense here. Wish

Great cmmoon sense here. Wish I’d thought of that.

Dear Jordan, I was diagnosed

Dear Jordan,

I was diagnosed with lyme two years ago. In the process of being diagnosed one of my doctors lent me his copy of Under Our Skin. While watching it I started crying because all of you were describing how I felt. It seemed that you all knew what I had been through and how much I was still suffering. After watching the film I didn't need to wait to see if I had lyme disease because I already knew the truth. Of course I needed treatment though. I have had lyme disease for about 12 years now. Ten of those years I went undiagnosed. Well I was diagnosed with a lot of different things but I found out two years ago that the true diagnosis was lyme. That I still have a lot of the things they diagnosed me with but they were all due to me having lyme disease. You already know that even after you are diagnosed it is a hard road. For me this rings so true! I finally found a great doctor who treats lyme in D.C.! His name is Dr. Shor and he has been so patient, kind, and understanding. Which is a huge shock for me because I am so used to doctors belittling me.

I am so sorry your wife couldn't handle everything that comes along with lyme disease. I understand how hard it can be on the ones that love us. I am so grateful that my now husband (we got married the first of this year) is able to take it all in stride. Don't get me wrong it is a very difficult and stressful situation and we have some rough times but he still knows how to love me and he still takes care of me to the best of his ability. I never thought I would get married while being so sick. I always thought and was told by many that no one would want to be with me while I was so sick. That I would need to get better before anyone could really love me and want to be with me. I thank God often for proving me and everyone else wrong! My husband has been with me for almost 3 years now and has been my biggest supporter.

My immediate family has struggled with adjusting their lives to deal with me having lyme disease even before we all knew that was what I had. In the end some of us have grown closer and some of us have drifted apart. Most of my relatives don't understand and don't want to understand.  The same goes for most of the friends I had. Which just makes me even more grateful for the people in my life who do love me and who do care. There aren't many but I am so lucky to have even a few people in my life who truly want to understand and help.

I pray that one day I will feel semi normal again. Your story and the story of many others from the film has encouraged me to keep hoping. Thank you for that! Honestly it means more to me than I can say.

This disease fills me with

This disease fills me with such anger. It's so unthinkable what you have had to endure. By the end of the film it seemed everything was working out for you, The film offers something of a happy ending based on your progress and the support of your family. It's sad to discover that it is only a half truth. An outrage what insuarance companies are capable of. The depths of depravity they sink to and total disreguard for the very people they are meant to help sickens me to the heart.

Like you I also discovered a tick. It was burrowed into the lower rear of my leg in 1992. It took a very powerful tug with tweezers to get it off. And I did see a doctor and took the tick with me. I was tested weeks later for Lyme, then years later and was told both times I did not have Lyme. None the less 7 months after the bite I fell ill with severe and debilitating symptoms. Extreme severe fatigue, feelings like I was floating outside my body, extreme weakness where it was very hard to walk without panting for breath. Weakness in my legs. Very sore red eyes. My palms often were blue with white spots on them. Mentally I felt like someone who spent a week climbing mount Everest, then celebrated by going on a 6 day drinking binge, getting the worst hangover you could ever imagine, while suffering from the flu.  Sometimes very debilitating and unable to sleep when it was at it's worse for days. Mental deterioration that was so destructive I was close to having to be put in a psych ward. I often was in such torment that I wanted to die. After weeks of symptoms I would recover slowly and feel fine after a week or more of recovery. And then 2 - 6 weeks it all began again. This continued for 9 years. Then I began to suffer less severe bouts but still not much of a relief at all in comparison. After 18 years, dozens of doctors, and hundreds of tests they diagnosed me with somatoform disorder, anxiety and depression. I once treated mmy self for candida thinking I had an acute problem with it. The cleanses and diets made me well and kept me healthy for up to 9 months during that time, But months after quitting the cleanse all symptoms returned and I felt doomed.

I saw 'Under our Skin' for the first time a few days ago. Seeing the stories of everyone was so horrible. But Dana's in particular hit home for me. Your symptoms however sound very similar to mine. The movie has given me hope, even if it is just a shred. I know now that the only explination has to be Lyme. It all adds up. But it is scary to know I may suffer this for the rest of my life because I won't have doctors willing to help me. I've been on SSI for 15 years because of this illness and how severely it's has hadicapped me has kept me from being bale to work much. I have worked very little off and on through this ordeal. But the insurance that covers me will never agree to years of antibiotic treatments.

None the less even though you were faced with much of the same agonies and uncertainty- you are making it. And if you can so can I. I want to thank you for sharing your story. Just like Dana's it's given me incredible hope. Your input into the film was very invaluable, and helped me understand this disease better. In fact your abilities as a comentator were quite interesting and had a sense of strong authority that I really helped me get a grasp on Lyme as the film opened and then later on.

I pray your health continues to improve and that you recover completely. Best wishes to you :)

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Hello Jordan Smith,

Hello Jordan Smith, I firstly like to express my gratitude to you and the entire group for the work done on UOS, raising awareness about Lyme, all over our Nation and world. I'm located on the East coast in Essex Ct: A 5min drive from Lyme,Ct. I would like to share a few more words in regards to a treatment for those who are suffering with Lyme, which is out of the box but has worked wonders for me. Before I spend much effort typing I must first see how long it takes for you to receive my note. The treatment I discovered is something I believe you'll like to understand. If your willing, feel free to use my personal email: [email protected],till we are able to share words, I'll just wish you will.. Take care, DRJ

Jordan,

Jordan, Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry about your divorce and wish you all the happiness in the world. Lyme is putting my family as risk as well. For those reading this it may help to see this from another perspective. My husband was diagnosed shortly after our marriage. I'm trying to see him through it. I keeping hanging in there with the hope that he will get well and we'll finally have a real partnership. In the meantime, I'm the one who does all the work in and out of the home. He researches his disease, new treatments and supplements and immerses himself in lyme 24/7. He refuses to have sex with me fearing I'll become sick. He obsesses not just about his health, but mine as well. He is moody, depressed, and prone to angry outbursts. Our life together is exhausting, boring and lacks intimacy. Thankfully I have a great job with excellent insurance. It provides a good living, coverage for his daily treatments and visits and keeps me stimulated socially and intellectually. Education is not the issue, I know more than I want to know about this disease. Love is not the issue, I love him deeply and want him to be well and happy. Intimacy is the issue, he distanced himself from me due to his disease. Everyday I reach out to him and am rebuffed with he is too tired, too sick, has too much pain, doesn't feel well enough... for a massage, to go out to dinner, to go to a concert, to go for a walk together, to snuggle up on the couch, etc. I'm patiently waiting for him to be well enough return to me. How long should I wait? Temptations are always there, it's the strength to resist them that gets lost somewhere along this lonely lyme path. Shirley

Jordan,Thanks for thoroughly

Jordan,

Thanks for thoroughly sharing your experience. Like others, I think I identified with your experience and symtems as the ones that most closely resemble my own. It was 10 years before I was diagnosed, I was treated two and a half years and then relapsed after several months.  I've been treated for another two years now and am beginning to see improvement. After seeing your experience, I'm hoping that another year will bring me through the process.

To you and others who experience isolation, that can part of the disease. A book that has been helpful to many "Healing Lyme", by Stephen Harrod Buhner decribes "social anxiety".  When I read that, I knew it identified a part of my situation - and I had been blaming myself.  Also, the husband of a friend with lyme,  secluded himself in the house and didn't want his friends to see him in this condition.

If Shirley is still following this blog, it might be helpful to understand that her husband's isolation may be part of the disease, not a personal defect or lack of love for her.

Congratulations on your book and ongoing success.

Marty

Jordan,

Jordan, Thank you again for your courageous transparency. You've helped your fellow Lyme friends to understand that we're not alone in our struggles. My heart breaks for the loss of your marital relationship; you will be in my prayers, Jordan. Bless you, friend!

Since Lyme is sexually

Since Lyme is sexually transmitted, your wife will most likely have a nasty reality check in the future... along with her new lover. Kharma's a b---h! Sorry, can't feel pity for the healthy ones. "In sickness and in health" is supposed to mean something! My husband contracted Lyme from me as did my daughter in utero.

Hello

Hello Jordan, Thank you for your honesty. I'm sorry to hear that your suffering was compounded with a lack of support from family. I live alone and have found it overwhelming but simply keep moving forward a moment at a time. From your words I recognize a need that many of us have, family or not, to be comforted and to receive support when we face the doctors, the complications, the treatments. Thanks, too, for remaining an advocate. I am now reaching a point where I can begin to use my voice in additional ways for those who suffer and cannot. Continued good health, peace, joy, and blessings to you. Joni

Jordan, The

Jordan, The relationship I was in when I got Lyme ended quickly. Over the next couple of years I did some dating but frankly when you hardly leave the house or are stranded in a small town without your friends then it's slim pickings. I haven't been in a relationship for 5 years. Not to depress you, I'm just saying, not that I know how you feel exactly since you were married with kids but that I can sympathize. I hope you continue to improve, L

Hi Jordan,

Hi Jordan, I have been very ill w/ lyme , Babs, and Bart plus C pneuomonia , neuro and edoncrine issues and lesions on my brain along w/ pain.. my family didnt understand how debilitating this disease was until they met a person that told them all about this horrible disease and gave them the 'Under our Skin" doc to watch .. now they know how serious the disease is and are very concerned for me I am 41 and live alone in Orlando Fl, my family is up in Erie, Pa I have no one to help me at this time and finally had to ask a client/friend to help w/ my picking up my meds and food shopping .. she went thru chemo alone so she has an understanding of what I am going through Im so used to being on my own (never married) so its VERY hard to ask for help ..hate to burden others I am running out of money (as most Lyme suffers so) all of my treatment so far has been out of pocket .. I had to sell my successful Upscale Mobile Dog Grooming Business due to my illness it was something that I started in May of 2005 because of my love for animals especially dogs unfortunately it was also probably where I got the lyme 2 months into my busienss .. I found a dog tick embedded in my stomache , it had been there all day but I didnt realize it till I got home to take a shower ... but my trusty computer said lyme ONLY came from deer ticks ..HA! How I learned now that that statement is so untrue ..I have filed for SSD In March of this year .. I know how hard it is to get SSD for lyme ..but I have so many other issues going on EPV /chronic fatigue etc The brain lesions should also help my case .. and the fact that I had to sell a Very successful business (even thru this rotten economy) due to the deteriation of my body ..it was a one man operation and I would groom about 90 dogs a month .. I have many clients that I am still in touch with and are praying for a speed recovery becuz they also and also so that I can come to their home and groom their dogs . ..I have a very intense bond with animals especially dogs ..so they only would like for me to work on their 'babies" ..;) I loved this film very much..but it frightened me to learn that so many people have died from this disease . I sent an email to Mandy since we are both from Orlando .. but I know she is very busy just like yourself I am doing a combo of abx and with my LLMD and natural treatment protocols that I learned from Brian Rosners book and my lyme support group on Yahoo these people have tried everything over the past 10 years so I am currently doing the MMS1 by Jim Humble protocol and will do the Salt/C protocol when I get finished with the MMS1 If possible let me know if you have heard of either of these treatments and what your thoughts are on each of them I am also considering getting a Doug Coil rife machine alot of lymies have had GREAT results using this machine it was built by a guy who had lyme and he treated his whole family with it (and all are lyme free now) if you have anything to say about this machine I would love to know your thoughts on this as well God Bless you and I pray that you have continued success w/ your recovery and pray for everyone else who is going through the same nightmare I am living in right now

Thank you for sharing your

Thank you for sharing your story. It certainly gives hope. Can you tell me if your movie has been set for release in South Africa? I am recently diagnosed with Lyme, Q Fever and Rickettsia + some other co-infections, but these conditions are GROSSLY ignored by the medical fraternity here. I was fortunate to find a LLMD earlier this year after 25 years of mis-diagnosis. I started my 6th month of AB treatment today and I am on a mission to get this illnesses recognised for the 100's, if not 1000's of suffers in SA. Insurance companies don't recognise it and an application for disability was turned down because they said I would be better in 3 months time.....

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Dear you

Dear you all I am still waiting for the dvd of your movie. I am from Germany and have been watching the trailer on and off. I was 'diagnosed' ( well 99 % of the doctors here do not agree that this specific test I did proves that you have Lyme symptoms needing treatment following the diagnosis and treatment standards of ISDA of course ) with Lyme last summer following diagnoses of Fibromylgia and CFS. I have a pain therapist who goes fully for the Fibromyalgia diagnosis and thinks I need a psyhosocial training to get better. The worst problem is that the social system of course follows the doctors reports and does not pay attention to those doctors being lyme literate. So you end up being diagnosed as a psychosomatic patient(and incoorperative in case you bring up the chronique lyme story ) and being referred to congnitive,behavioral therapy to heal you. Chronic lyme is not aknowledged here in Germany and even with Fibromyalgia it is very, very hard to get disability. Finding a doctor who is able and also willing to treat if you do not have a private health insurance (and most people in Germany don t ) is a real challenge. Since I am a holistic healer with a specific psycho-somatic training I definetely agree that supportive therapy is beneficial but it will of course not heal your lyme or comorbid infections. I am trained in meditation and working with the mind and of course it helps to deal with the pain I am suffering from. And I tell my doctors that it does, so they ask me , why are your still sick ? You must have the wrong attidute ( you do not really want to be healthy again ) , if not all what you do works by now. You can see how cynical this is... I have tried several Abs now ( luckily I have found a doctor in the Capital to treat me )but most of them I can not tolerate so its going down for me quite often. I have various other bacterial infections including persisting Yersinia. I can not really say, how long I have Lyme now, I had so many tick bites as a youth growing up in the country side , brooming horses, having cats , being in the woods and fields. My health rapidly went down after I gave birth to my now nearly 13 year old son. He also shows some lyme symptoms and I always pray he did not contract it too. We have been living in Norther India for a while and I have wonderful tibetan doctors there using herbal medicine. If I take the herbs contiuously, I can control some of the cognitive symptoms. At least my brain fog is bearable. I am single mom and yes, my son has never seen me as a healthy person. He also witnessed very scary moments in India , when my heart was close to giving up. It is taugh on him and on me. I used to be a very active and sportive person, enjoying horseback riding, Taebo and going by bicycle all the time. A was also working a body working therapist and wellness trainer. Now I am glad if on one of those rare good days I can do a nice slow 30 minutes walk. Needless to say that I can t do a regular job any more. But I started to do support those with Lyme who need to talk and exchange their experiences. Sometimes I wish , those who do not understand Lyme and how disabling it can be for most of us , would have it for one week -just to be able to understand. But actually, this is nothing I wish anyone to have for only one single day. I am sending my prayers to you all and my gratitude for you being there love Sabine

Hi Jordan, Thank

Hi Jordan, Thank you for sharing your life. I had thought all was on the upswing for you when you joined our twitter chat one night for Lyme in 08/09. I had just finished reading your book and said to another Lymie, it sure would be great to talk with Jordan and voila I was notified within a few days of opportunity to do so on twitter. You were so kind to everyone, and despite some people being rather confused & agitated at the process itself, you were gracious and kind. Thank you for giving hope to others! Now a year later I read your update, just when you think you've finished the climb, life throws another curve ~ don't I know I've just experienced similar events as yourself. I'm walking on similar grounds, but am finding much peace in the crisp night sky of the North country, and am taking the time to regain my strength for xcountry skiing and cycling with my son. I'm also finding that self care as a survival method, is working well to keep my Lyme at bay for now. Through Lyme I've learned to appreciate much more in life, as is what happens when you are close to loosing life itself. As it turns out sometimes there are reasons for everything, and what may seem like the worst event turns into be a gift from above. Everyday despite the adversities, I stop to be thankful for the new friends and amazing people that are entering my world. I will look forward to your next book and an opportunity to chat should you have the time....from another Lymie Catherine of the North

Hi Jordan, I'm glad you're

Hi Jordan, I'm glad you're doing better but sad that you can't get that darn insurance to pay. My husband contracted Lyme disease in 2007 with 3 co-infections. He was in bad shape. Luckily, I found a Lyme Literate Doctor in upstate New York and he is so much better now. After going to 15 doctors who did absolutely nothing for him, we found Dr. Steven Bock. He has been a life saver (literally). I'm so sorry about your divorce. I know how important family support is and I'm really horrified that your x-wife was of no help. I really am angered by that. I'm sure you'll meet someone who will be right for you. Be well and stay positive. Please keep everyone updated on your progress. Take care, Linda Bedell-Kwiatkowski

Thanks you for your comments.

Thanks you for your comments. We are living in La Barra, Uruguay. And when you say Lyme, the people ask's "what's that", they don't believe what you can feel, or how you feel, the humor changes in seconds. In the Private Hospital they will say you have nothing, just because the Lab test costs around $ 2.000. The only place in South America that we know is a Lab in San Pablo, Brazil. And yes, when they give a false negative, and then you receive Borrelia burgdorferi plus rickettsia!!!! Hundreds of doxiciclina pills, and again symptoms, since year 2000, today under treatment of 2 doxiciclina plus 1000 mg of metronidazol, in 2 weeks, we will see ....When beginning this treatment, first week symptoms, were all Lyme together, nerve pain, skin pain, rushes, fever, cramps, teeth pain, there is a list, they say is because this 2 drugs used together, one destrouys the cover of the cell why the other kill it. Hope will work. Yes it destroys families. [email protected]

Like Becky, I also was

Like Becky, I also was impressed by the modulated, diplomatic way Jordan described his wife. I sometimes wonder if it's almost better to go through a sickness without a spouse or significant other. The tension that arises in a couple when one person is sick can make the illness worse. A person without a mate tends more to rely on a network of friends who can distribute the emotional impact amongst themselves, so the entire burden doesn't fall on one person. That said, it may be harder for a sick person to reach out to friends than to a dedicated romantic partner. Culturally, we expect a spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend to provide care for their partner, and so it's less embarrassing for the patient to request that care from them. Asking for help from friends and extended family is emotionally harder. At least, this is my experience. I got what is probably Lyme disease many years ago, after working in the woods with white-footed field mice, eight hours a day for three months. I have a lot of friends, but most don't know how much I struggle, and somehow I do not know how to ask them, "WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE BRING ME A DANGED-BLASTED CASSEROLE ALREADY?" I am lucky that my immediate family is supportive, although they live many states away. Thanks to everyone who commented and gave me something to read at 1 am while my hands were burning! = ) Christina

I am not a Lyme sufferer, but

I am not a Lyme sufferer, but my friend is. She showed us the film when we drove out from Mass to Michigan to visit her. We are doing everything we can to help get the word out, and I have put a link to the site on several health sites including the one for www.manyhands.com which I publish. If there's a mailing list, I'd love to be one it. My wife just finished your book, Nature Noir, as well. I look forward to reading it. Good luck to you and all those overcoming Lyme.

Jordan~ I

Jordan~ I understand everything you wrote! I have suffered for over 18 years. I have 2 daughters and also lost my spouse due to Lyme. I have forgiven him, as I can't understand this disease and what it does and I have no choice but to live with it. I have recently re-married and have found my soul mate and someone who wants to help and understand. You will heal your heart just like you have your body, just give it time. I unfortunatly am not better and have NEVER had a "positive" Lyme test which always makes you wonder if you are treating the right thing even tough I have all the symptoms and no other tests other then Chronic Candida have ever come up with anything. I want you to know that thier is hope and thank you for the hope you have given to me and all of those who have seen this film. Greatfully! Brooke

Connie,

Connie, Thank you so much for your good wishes and words of comfort. You do not say what your connection to Lyme is, but your empathy is strong, and I am grateful to you for taking the time to write. Jordan Fisher Smith Becky, This blog has surprised me so much. Here we are these months later, and people are still making entries on it. Thanks for your praise of Under Our Skin. And for your approval of the way I spoke of my wife. She entered this terrible time having had a fortunate life that provided her with no experience dealing with serious difficulty. Once my illness really got bad, she had no support network built around the seriousness of Lyme as an illness (I use the example of cancer in my blog) or even any sense of what Lyme was. She was not going to the doctors with me or reading about Lyme, so she didn't know that much about what was going on. And even our families didn't really respond to the crisis to support her. This problem is part of a larger ignorance and denial in the culture about tick-borne illness, and it wasn't my wife's fault, really. Jordan Fisher Smith

Thank you so much for telling

Thank you so much for telling your story and update. The movie is so powerful and really opens up the eyes of those who have no clue what we are going through. I'm sorry about your wife. I love the way you do not bash her. It really is a difficult situation to be a caregiver. Different for a child than for a husband. You will be OK. There will be someone else out there who will be right for you. Lean on your new lyme friends, who understand. Take care and continue your fight and work.

Thank you so much for your

Thank you so much for your story, Jordan. It strengthens in me the knowledge that when God closes one door another opens. This journey we call life is littered with twists and turns, and faith takes us to the end of one path and the beginning of another. You are not alone in this and it is a comfort knowing that I am not either. Blessings to you and all touched by Lyme Disease as patient, caregiver, family and friend.

I will tell you why I felt

I will tell you why I felt like an onion as I'm going through treatment. I will be meeting you in Nevada if I find lodging as I will be volunteering for CALDA. I've come a long ways since I first started treatment last May 2008 and sick since May 2007. I feel as I'm working towards remission, I'm peeling different layers to get to my goal. It started with the brain fog lifting, then the shaking calmed, then coordinating my feet to work together as my walking got better and better, then my head stoped burning, my neck stopped being so stiff and the list goes on... My daughter also is slowly working toward healing. Thank you for giving of yourself so we can bring awareness to this horrible disease.

Thank

Thank you, My husband and I just saw the movie. He has had lyme for almost 14 yrs. He finally got an appointment with Dr. Donta and we are hopeful. I just wanted to thank you for sharing your story. My husband and I cried thru the whole thing for ourselves and the patients and doctor's . In the past he has wanted to give up and not pursue treatment, but after seeing how bad it can get (he's been lucky not to have any neurological problems) I think he sees how important it is to press on. God Bless You.

Jordan-

Jordan- So sorry to hear about your divorce. Saw the movie last night and was very moved by all of the people's stories, especially seeing them regain their 'sparkle' and renewed enthusiasm for life. My son is 23 and has been dealing with this since he was bitten at age 19. His symptoms are predominately cognitive with the pressure in his head, brain fog and ringing in his ears. He is an artist and musician and has always been a deep thinker. He is doing okay at the moment but does not like to talk about it and refused to see the movie, knowing it would upset him. My husband and I feel so incredibly helpless and we worry as our son steps out into adulthood. Thanks for your contribution to this cause and I wish you the best.

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Eleanor,

Eleanor, Thanks for serving the Lyme community in Houston. Your story is breathtaking in proportions. Can you really have lost two babies and so many relatives to Lyme? Horrible. And you say this story is not unusual in your part of the country? Surely this is a story that needs to be told, and will be told, someday in Texas. Thank you for taking the time to write me here. Ann Jones, No, you will not be on antibiotics forever. I'm off now, and you will be too. There is life after Lyme. Thank you for sharing with me that the movie worked for you. I think it's working for a lot of people right now. Lupe, I am so sorry that both you and your daughter are being treated for Lyme, but I am glad for you that unlike too many Americans, you are getting some assistance with the cost of the drugs. Good luck with your treatment! And sometime you must tell me why you felt like an onion. I didn't get it! Jordan Fisher Smith

Jordan

Jordan THANK YOU! When I watched Under My Skin I was so thankful that I could now relate to a person who has also suffered from Chronic Lyme disease with the symtons I had; namely Babesia. I believe I have had it since 1990 and finally the disease appeared as positive on a Lyme blood test in 2000, after many false negatives. I have been treated ever since. As many others have said, your appearance in the film and telling your story is very compelling. It has added to my willingness to fight back again. Since you can relate, I have to tell you about my ex-wife who used to yell get up, stop your faking, you don't have Lyme disease, you need to get your ass to work before you get fired, etc. she was very encouraging. She also had affiars and finally I divorced her during one of those periods when I was feeling well. Lastly, I had a good 1.5 years of treatment for Babesia where I was feeling so normal that I was even able to play softball on a regular basis until Dec. 2008 when I relapsed. I spent Jan 2009 thinking about nothing but suicide as I could not possibly do this again. Since I could not bring myself to leave my 2 children and a real supportive girlfriend to deal with the aftermath I decided to fight back again [not really sure how many more times I can do this]. Finally with my condition worstening again I changed from by 8.5 yr realtionship with my Lyme literate doctor to another Lyme literate Dr in San Diego who retested my blood with IgeneX [first test since 2000] only to confirm that I still had severe Lyme, Babesia and now Ehrlicia. So since April 2009 I have been treated my this new doctor who has given me back hope. I do have to tell you I have almost a weekly fight as to what really is the quality of my life and have to remind myself again why I have not checked out- only the potential deviastaion to the lives of my children & my girlfriend, Janet [who is truly the greatest- an angel] keep me here. Please give your updates coming and continued success with your books. Keep fighting as YOU ARE INSPIRATIONAL and this fight needs you! Len F. [previously Middletown & Red Bank, NJ now San Diego,CA]

Dear

Dear Jordan, I read your update and felt such sympathy for all that has been placed upon you these many years. The movie was so important. You lent such credibiity to this disease and right from your introduction in Under Our Skin I was swept in and mesmerized by you and all the others in this film. I purchased the DVD and lend it to many people. Again I think your part in this was critical to the future of attention this disease hopes to get. i have had Lyme twice, my husband 3 or 4 times, we are both in good health now but I worry, we worry about the future, but I see and know of so many others suffering in such a big way, who knows? right? I saw Michael J. Fox today on the View and I look at him and think, could that be Lyme and Not Parkinson's as we all believed? Hopefully Under Our Skin will be the catalyst that drives this research. Thank you for being a part of it. I wish you health and peace. Susan C. in Weston CT

Jordan, It' very sad to hear

Jordan, It' very sad to hear about the demise of your marriage. For all the physical symptoms of Lyme, loneliness may be the hardest part. I am lucky to have a community of support and, still, it's painful to realize that my neighbors always forget I have Lyme and never check to see how I'm doing. Most of the people at my daughter's school don't realize the impact its had on our lives. For me, its particularly difficult because I had to move back into the house I owned with my ex. We will never be a couple again, but he has graciously cared for. However, it has its emotional costs. I feel trapped. Friends have abandoned me along the way, too. It hurts to realize that people don't want to know you any more when you are in need. Still, I am lucky. I do have support. The circle of friends I have is stronger. And I have a very loving daughter. Now, if only insurance would pay for the IViG treatment I need. Alas.... Like you, Lyme has brought out the writer in me. I've yet to write a novel (though I have one in mind), but I never knew I could write before. Now it's my lifeline. I wish you the very best. Continued healing, both physical and emotional.

Well, I just saw you again in

Well, I just saw you again in the movie. We are on to our 3rd movie screening in our area. Two in Napa and now one in St. Helena CA. I just started my second round of 6 months of meds. I feel like an onion. I never thought I would be so happy to just go walking down my stairs with two legs working together instead of one and the other one joining their after (lol) I have not read your book yet but have heard good things. I am blessed that the drug assistance program have paid for 20,000 dollars worth of drugs over the last 6 months and now my daughter is in treatment also. Thank you for sharing your life with the world and responding to our emails. It would be nice to meet the people who gave so much of their time to make this movie possible so we can help educate our communities about lyme. Lupe

Jordan: Just saw

Jordan: Just saw Under our Skin and was on the verge of tears most of the time. I read Nauture Noir right after it was published and reviewed. I'm going to make a point of having everyone I know see Under Our Skin. I just finished a course of Doxycycline and feel better but this is the third round of antibiotics in six years. I recently spoke with someone who's been taking doxy for "20" years. I was shocked. Is this my life ? I'm going to have to find a Lyme doc now that I know there are docs out there that really know Lyme. I hope that you continue to do well. I look forward to your next book. Ann

Dear

Dear Jordan, I really appreciate you sharing your story on UOS and for being so candid. It helps others who are going thru similar experiences. Good luck on your new book!

Jordan, how sorry I am to

Jordan, how sorry I am to hear of the events that have transpired since UOS. In reading something you posted above, I thought it was such a perfect example of how little support patients and their families get from others who we already know can't possibly understand... "...people show up with casseroles, etc." (This hit home because it used to be such a tradition and still is some places in Texas.) For the record, I lost my 2 babies (miscarrried), mother, maternal grandmother, most of Mom's side of the family, my father, paternal grandfather, paternal grandmother, aunts, uncles, etc. all to what we now know was and is Lyme. And I'm not an unusual case in this part of the South. Now 52 years old, how in the world do I build any kind of life? Guess I'll just have to be a Lyme Warrior until the end. You're right in your assessment of the fortune you have with regard to the 2 beautiful children I saw. I hope for many, Lyme-free grandchildren for you. We are more than containers for Lyme Eleanor Mason Borrelia Information Center of Houston [email protected]

Thank you so much for all of

Thank you so much for all of the information. I am so very saddened that so many people have not gotten proper treatment for Lyme's. Our much vaunted US health care system is a disaster. I am losing faith in it totally.

To all of you....I have so

To all of you....I have so appreciated all of your mail and support during this difficult time, and I apologize for not having replied before now. I've been traveling extensively (and somewhat exhaustingly) on research for my new book, and in a couple of cases, to support Under Our Skin's release and distribution so it can help people. I want to answer Vivian's question immediately to make sure it's taken care of, since it appears to be time sensitive. I will be replying to the others in the coming days. First of all, thanks to Openeye for responding to that question. There are really two questions here: what do rats carry that you could get directly from them or their nests, and what to the arthropods (ticks) that rats carry, carry! The standard practice for dealing with areas that have rodent nests now in the American west and southwest, to the best of my knowledge, is if you have to do it, wear a protective dust mask, gloves, long-sleeved clothes, and wash yourself and your clothing immediately thereafter. And watch for ticks and fleas on you. As your question indicates you may be well aware that dusky-footed woodrats and a couple of species of pinon mouse, not deer as is true in the East, are the principal reservoirs of Lyme disease here in California. So ticks hang around woodrats and get Lyme from them, which they then pass to people. I believe it is a fact that the density of ticks goes up around woodrat nests. Therefor one part of your question may be answered by the following: around woodrat nests you would be exposed to Lyme, Bartonella, Ehrlichiosis, Babesiosis, tuleremia, and other tick-born disease by the bite of infected ticks. Cases of Hantavirus in humans are relatively rare, but hantavirus is now endemic to the West and Southwest and of course the disease may not be all that rare in people who go around cleaning up rodent nests! In addition, rodents in the West are occasionally infected with bubonic plague, and this is luckily also rare. To the best of my recollection plague can be transmitted to a human being by the bite of a flea, by aerosols (material injected into the air by the cough of an infected organism)or in very rare cases (as was true of one National Park Service biologist at Grand Canyon), by direct contact with the blood or body fluids of an infected organism and an open cut on your hand (which is also true of tuleremia). With all of that said, you will probably be fine. I've cleaned up a fair number of rat and mouse nests in my woodpiles here in the Sierra over recent years with reckless abandon, and I got my case of Lyme in a much more pedestrian and predictable way--by being a park ranger who crashed through the brush for decades, finally got bit, and then didn't get proper medical care in the first year and a half from the first four doctors I saw. So be careful when you're driving and working on ladders. Risk factors are real. The most likely things are most likely to happen to you. Jordan Fisher Smith

With wood rats, you have to

With wood rats, you have to watch for toxoplasmosis, a parasite that infects the brain, and which can cause strange behavioral symptoms. The eggs of the parasite dry out in rat feces, then can become aerosolized with sweeping: http://www.cdc.gov/toxoplasmosis/ There's also hanta virus, which is more rare: http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d001601-d001700/d001651/d001651.html

Hello to all Lyme's

Hello to all Lyme's sufferers, I am really shaken now after reading through this website, feeling much compassion for all of you. I have had Lyme's disease, and fortunately, amazingly I have had no further symptoms after treatment. I really think I did lick it. I was bit back in the 1990's--I got bit by an infected tick while doing field work (US Forest Service Northern Calif.--Shasta-Trinity National Forest) on a very cold rainy November day. I came home in the dark tired and exhausted and just fell into bed. The next day I discovered the tick. The bull's eye was obvious--glaring. I have been bit by many ticks in my life so I knew this was different. I went right away to the doctor and I also asked him to photograph the site because I knew I might need a record--I had heard the stories even back then about the failures of the "system" to protect people. He put me on a month's regime of--I think tetracycline. I do remember it was an older, wide spectrum antibiotic. I have had no other symptoms that I know of. But I did have a horrible back ache for a week after the day I was bit. I would appreciate hearing from others who may have a similar story. Also, can someone tell me if there is something else that wood rats carry? I hadn't heard about that yet. Please let me know as I have just spent days cleaning out an old shed filled to the brim with wood rat droppings and nests. Vivian in No. Calif.

Hi Jordan, thanks for sharing

Hi Jordan, thanks for sharing your story. I just watched the movie and it was like seeing pieces of myself in the lives of others. I am sorry about your marriage. I know I'm fortunate to have a fiance and family members that are willing to take me to doctors visits and learn the best they can about my treatments. I was a field biologist for a few years in differnt state and got hundreds (if seriously not thousands of tick bites) between living in 7 states and living in Kenya for a semester. Of course the doctors told me not to worry because i never had a rash (apparantly joint pain, fevers, and pain never factored in!). I finally got really sick while working in the san joaquin valley doing my grad project on riparian woodrats. Still the fact that i worked hands on with wild rats was no clue to my doctors!! After a negative Elisa test, i wasn't tested again (Igenex) for 6 years! After years of being sick i got to the right doctors and am starting to feel better. I'm on disability and still have a long road ahead, but i'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm getting married this July and just bought a house with my fiance in Fair Oaks. I'm going to show the movie to my biologist friends, as we are definetely in danger of getting this disease. Most of my friends and past co-workers have no idea how prevelant this disease is. Have fun in the mountains with your kids. I can't wait to be well enough to go hiking, birding, and camping again! take care, Karen thanks so much, Karen

Illnesses of all kinds are

Illnesses of all kinds are hard on families, and lyme is especially hard because of the controversy, the expense, and the fact that it just exhausts everyone's patience. My own family never asks about my condition and so far has not read the books or watched the DVD. Frankly I am stunned at this behavior. It is true they have their own challenges, but it was not just for them to understand my situation, but to educate them so no one else gets this. I think you never know how family will respond until it happens. I'm sorry about your wife, but there are some people who can cope with adversity better than others, and you will surely find someone. Glad you still have the kids in your life. Best wishes in your new career. No need to reply.

You nailed the social

You nailed the social abandonment of this in a few sentences: "If someone in your neighborhood gets cancer, people show up with casseroles... But when someone gets Lyme, often none of this happens, and the Lyme family is terribly alone." This really hit home, thanks for blogging about it. Carole
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