IDSA aims to censor UNDER OUR SKIN TV broadcasts

Open Eye Pictures has recently learned that the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) has been trying to stop the television broadcast of its award-winning documentary on Lyme disease, UNDER OUR SKIN. Working behind the scenes, IDSA officers and members have been contacting the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), the National Educational Telecommunications Association (NETA), and local PBS stations, calling our film “dangerous for viewers” and full of “conspiracies.”

The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) was created in 1967 to “provide a voice for groups in the community that may otherwise be unheard,” and serve as “a forum for controversy and debate” by broadcasting programs that “help us see America whole, in all its diversity.”

We are heartened that no PBS affiliate station has folded under the pressure. UNDER OUR SKIN is the first televised documentary dedicated to educating the public about the plight of Lyme disease patients, who have been abandoned by the medical establishment, in part, because of the IDSA’s flawed Lyme guidelines development process.

While the primary focus of UNDER OUR SKIN is to inform viewers about Lyme disease through the eyes of patients, it also includes interviews with several authors of the IDSA Lyme disease treatment guidelines. These authors were briefed by the IDSA vice president of communications before the filming began, and we believe these interviews accurately represent the IDSA viewpoint on Lyme disease.

UNDER OUR SKIN also shows the unfolding of the investigation into the IDSA Lyme disease guidelines by former Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut. His final investigative report found that there was:

• Significant conflicts of interest among the original IDSA guidelines authors,
• Suppression of scientific evidence by authors, and,
• Exclusion of panel members with opposing viewpoints.

The IDSA’s suppression of dissenting views continues. This time the target is UNDER OUR SKIN. (More examples of IDSA censorship are listed at the end of this article.)

Recently, the importance of transparency and open dialogue in medical guidelines development were underscored in a report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), “Clinical Practice Guidelines We Can Trust.” In this mandate for guidelines reform, the IDSA Lyme guidelines were called out as an example of a process gone awry:

“This case highlights the need for standardization and transparency in all aspects of systemic data collection and review, committee administration, and guideline development, so that questions about these issues do not detract from the science. [Guideline developers]… must be aware of the many, varied observers who will consider their development processes, particularly when their recommendations are likely to be controversial.”

And in a recent study in Archives of Internal Medicine, researchers found that out of 4,200 IDSA guideline recommendations, more than half were based on no more than expert opinion and anecdote, not hard evidence, reinforcing points made in our film. (See references below.)

So, as investigative news organizations and documentary film producers — with the help of the Physicians Sunshine Act — begin to shine the light on endemic commercial influences on “evidence-based medicine,” it’s a wake up call to the medical establishment to clean up their own act before attacking outside organizations dedicated to protecting the public.

In other words, don’t shoot the messenger.
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To read more about past IDSA efforts to censor dissenting opinions:

Poses, R. (2006) “The Conflicted Defending the Conflicted: Infectious Disease Specialists’ Attack on the LA Times Goes Awry.”

Henderson CW, DeNoon, DJ. (1997) “Strange Bedfellows Damage CDC and NIH Credibility” AIDSWEEKLY Plus. Feb 3 1997.

Oransky, I. “Transparency needed in drug researchers’ finances.” Boston Globe. Oct. 7, 2006.

To read more about the flawed IDSA guidelines development process:

Johnson, L. and R. B. Stricker (2010). “The Infectious Diseases Society of America Lyme guidelines: a cautionary tale about the development of clinical practice guidelines.” Philos Ethics Humanit Med 5: 9.

IOM. (2011) “Clinical Practice Guidelines We Can Trust.” Washington D.C. National Academies Press.

Lee, D. H. and O. Vielemeyer (2011). “Analysis of Overall Level of Evidence Behind Infectious Diseases Society of America Practice Guidelines.” Arch Intern Med 171(1): 18-22.

Frederik Joelving, Medical “best practice” often no more than opinion”,

To download a detailed history of the IDSA investigation, click here.

To read the Attorney General’s press release on the IDSA guidelines investigation, click here.

Comments

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It’s a great pleasure reading that you posted here. radyo dinle

Thanks for sharing. i really

Thanks for sharing. i really appreciate it that you shared with us such a informative post...

Just buy the video and offer

Just buy the video and offer public screenings- that's what I do.  I also print materials to hand out and offer a referral list.  People know what they are experiencing and don't come to be convinced, they come because something finally reflects their experiences.  I have found that expecting a grand scale change is impossible, but connecting with like minded people day by day is the way to go.

Great idea. I just saw this

Great idea. I just saw this movie (3-3-12) and have passed the link on to many people. I believe Lyme is epidemic. I live in Vermont. I had Lyme (had a bulls-eye rash as big as a dinner plate, it grew that big because when it was the size of a quarter, the doctor I saw poo-pooed me and said it was nothing). I was fortunate to catch it early and the two weeks of antibiotics seems to have done the trick. We have a 15 month old dog who was vaccinated for Lyme as soon as she could be. And she has been on Frontline all her life. But guess what? At a recent check-up, they did a blood test and found, by chance, that she tested positive for Lyme. I can tell you, I am VERY nervous about the upcoming tick season. Because of our warm winter, I know the ticks will be worse than ever. It is such a shame, because we love to spend time in nature, but it is pretty scary to expose oneself to this horrible disease every time you go in the woods. I am so grateful to these filmmakers. Please keep doing what you are doing; God knows how many lives you have helped.

Great idea. I just saw this

Great idea. I just saw this movie (3-3-12) and have passed the link on to many people. I believe Lyme is epidemic. I live in Vermont. I had Lyme (had a bulls-eye rash as big as a dinner plate, it grew that big because when it was the size of a quarter, the doctor I saw poo-pooed me and said it was nothing). I was fortunate to catch it early and the two weeks of antibiotics seems to have done the trick. We have a 15 month old dog who was vaccinated for Lyme as soon as she could be. And she has been on Frontline all her life. But guess what? At a recent check-up, they did a blood test and found, by chance, that she tested positive for Lyme. I can tell you, I am VERY nervous about the upcoming tick season. Because of our warm winter, I know the ticks will be worse than ever. It is such a shame, because we love to spend time in nature, but it is pretty scary to expose oneself to this horrible disease every time you go in the woods. I am so grateful to these filmmakers. Please keep doing what you are doing; God knows how many lives you have helped.

The film was very much what I

The film was very much what I needed. Thank you! Keep up the hard work. In Oct. I was ill with breathing issues. They tested my oxygen level it was 100%.Doctor #1 told it was panic attacks and a viris. I should return in a couple of weeks if I don't get better. I didn't. This time I said I waswaking up out of a dead sleep gasping for air now I have a cough,rash,muscle,and bones ached. My oxygen level was 100%. The Doctor #2 blew me off and said I'll give you a Z-pck. I did feel better for about two weeks. Then the rash return same place under my chest and on my back. Doctor # 3 did see the rash and cocluded that it was an reaction to soap,lotion,or food. Just had happened I just used a new soap. Stopped the soap but still feel tired and tried ignore all other pains. I'm a active mother in her thirties standing at 5'7" weighing 140lbs. I consider myself in good shape.I decided that I would wait for an apt. with the Doctor#3.I couple of weeks and I did get worse. Walking into my office I fell to my right,on my printer and file cabinet,then a grey floater was in my right eye. I went to the ER and had X-Rays, monitors, and many many question. The one important one Did you ever have a Lyme test inall the times you came to this Hospital? No! I reply. They thuoght at the time I had asthma do my breathing, even though my oxygen was100%. In a few days The best Doctor of all #4ER Doctor called and said I have Lyme.Meds for a month felt better off meds. for two weeks guess what my spine hurts (bones) my thighs hurts (muscles) and wham! the ras back worse than before. Now Dox. for two weeks and my Doctor#3 wanted to take more blood to see if I still had it ?????? By the way I live in beautiful Vermont. My husband had Lyme. He had it caught in early stage and better. My dog also was on Frontline and had Lyme.My youngest child has had three ticks on him in his eight years of life and was told even if he tested positive meds.are not an opt. My oldest 12 three as well.

Just beginning to read up on

Just beginning to read up on LD, and the controversies associated with 'chronic Lyme Disease'. According to the Lyme Disease Foundation, Inc. website, http://www.lyme.org/trtcontrov.html:

 

(1)  " Among the most compelling published evidence of chronic infection despite prolonged antibiotic therapy is the case study "Seronegative Chronic Relapsing Neuroborreliosis," (Eur Neurol 1995; 355: 113-17). It details a patient whose serum was consistently negative for free antibodies for Bb infection, but had laboratory evidence of active infection in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF). The patient, a previously healthy 58-year-old woman, received four courses of intense antibiotic therapy: 3-weeks of intravenous ceftriaxone followed by 8-weeks of ceftriaxone; 2 weeks of intravenous ceftriaxone followed by 19 weeks of doxycycline; 3-weeks intravenous treatment followed by additional treatment with doxycycline; and 2 weeks of intravenous ceftriaxone.

 

" Evidence of active infection was found each time after intense prolonged antibiotic therapy was administered. Relapse occurred soon after treatment was stopped and Jarish-Herxheimer episodes were experienced each time treatment was initiated. (J-H reactions are symptoms that include fever and nausea and are believed to be cause by the body's initial reaction to toxins from dead Bb.) When the patient was given clarithromycin for 22 months, no new symptoms or deficits occurred.

 

" The report concludes the case is "an unusual case of seronegative Lyme disease" in a patient with "chronic relapsing Bb infection." Renowned neuro-Lyme expert and IDSA committee member Patricia Coyle, MD, SUNY Stony-Brook School of Medicine, co-authored the article.

 

(2)  " New York State Office of Professional Medical Conduct's trial against East Hampton doctor Joeseph Burrascano, Jr., on charges of overdiagnosis/treatment of LD and its revocation of Long Neck Lyme specialist Perry Orens, MD, last year exemplifies the "chilling" impact Liegner and others believe the protocol will have on Lyme docs who aggressively treat late-stage LD. After leaving Burrascano's case open for over six years, OPMC informed him just weeks after the protocol was first released in late August that they will proceed with their case against him. The opening date of his trial took place October 26. LDF chair Karen Vanderhoof-Forschner anticipates the IDSA protocol will be among the primary evidence used against Burrascano.

 

" Though Burrascano cannot reveal the specific charges against him, media reports state the charges include overdiagnosis and overtreatment of LD. The case represents a pivotal chapter in the Lyme disease controversy, as Burrascano is perhaps the most vocal, respected and influential physician who recognizes and aggressively treats LD. With his Lyme disease diagnosis and treatment protocol published in Conn's Current Therapy (Rakel, 1997), many Lyme-literate doctors rely on his guidelines to diagnose and treat LD.

 

" Should Burrascano lose his case, the ever-shrinking list of doctors willing to aggressively treat patients who remain symptomatic after "conventional" short-term therapy because of unscientific protocols such as the IDSA's is sure to become even shorter.

 

" And the implications of that go far beyond chilling."

 

 

 

 

What about those people who

What about those people who have rights to see it, instead of censorship, they have to filter it. cover for the ipad

This film is free on hulu

This film is free on hulu right now.  Just a heads up.  It is required for anyone in my family to see how hard life is for my wife and what has made her better.  You can say what you want about this film but the treatment in this film (antibiotics, supplements) saved my wifes life.  Something is working.  

Although it may be available

Although it may be available for 'free' somewhere, if you want someone to do the heavy lifting of creating an expose, you should be willing to buy the DVD so that the folks who actually did the research and risked the ire of the powerful, can be in some small way be compensated for their time and effort. 

Do you think exposes grow on trees?  What are the documentary producers supposed to eat -air?

Gladly pay for this information or don't piss 'n moan in the future when no one wants to  research into why you and your family have been made ill, or ripped off, or lied to by the .05% who have the megafunds to own this country.

 

I just saw part of this movie

I just saw part of this movie on my PBS station, and by far this was the most irresponsible piece of garbage I have ever seen on PBS.

Shame on you, PBS

If  "part of the film" is

If  "part of the film" is "garbage", then it shouldn't  trouble you in the least.  Shame on YOU for commenting on something you've  neither watched nor experienced.  I hope you experience chronic neuropsychiatric Lyme and live in the snare you help to set for others.

If  "part of the film" is

If  "part of the film" is "garbage", then it shouldn't  trouble you in the least.  Shame on YOU for commenting on something you've  neither watched nor experienced.  I hope you experience chronic neuropsychiatric Lyme and live in the snare you help to set for others.

I've been sick with Lyme

I've been sick with Lyme disease for 15 years. The standard methods of treatment as recommended by the pharma backed IDSA did not work when I originally contracted Lyme, diagnosed two different times by bulls eye rashes in a three year period.  Western Blot identifies anti bodies, but not all active infections. It is an ineffective method of diagnosis.  The chronic, acute symptoms of Lyme disease that I now have, headaches, arthritic joints, short term memory loss, fatigue, muscle pain, developed over time, and were dismissed by regular doctors who perscribed useless pain killers and anti inflamatories.  "Sick" of the lamestream medical industry, I turned to a Lyme specialist and now a mix of IV antibiotics are starting to do the real work that previous, lame and ineffecient methods as recommended by IDSA, allowed me to become far more sick than I needed to be.  It is irresponsible of medical practitioners to dismiss this serious disease as a mental illness, it is not irresponsible for PBS to share our stories.  Every day I sit with other Lyme victims and we share our struggles and stories. They sound exactly like those in this film. I have never felt so validated and my struggles and wise decisions so well confirmed. 

I am a landscape designer, an avid gardener, a martial artist, a runner and athlete and I cannot do what I love anymore without pain and exhaustion. I have a large amount of foul epithets for people like you. But you are obviously suffering from some Lyme yourself that has attacked the cognitive parts of your brain and limited your ability to think.  So I recommend some antibiotics to help you too. 

This film FINALLY shows

This film FINALLY shows people what it is like to live with Lyme. What it is like to watch your child almost die after being bitten. OUS is the first to explain to friends, family, communities and even doctors. What is happening. Do not judge others until you have walked for years in their life. You obviously do not understand and though I wish you could know in every bone, muscle, organ and nerve in your body what this is like I would never wish this disease on anyone. OUS, thank you for giving us a voice and helping us learn what has been killing us.

"I just saw part of this

"I just saw part of this movie......."   That sums up the quality of your opinion for me.  Watch the whole thing first.  Post a comment that provides a reason for or against the documentary.  Your opinion is garbage.

After seeing UOS I realized I

After seeing UOS I realized I was watching what had happened to my mother over the last ten years.  I didn't even know if she was bitten by a tick before she was sick.  I called her and asked her and she told me she was bitten six months before she "crashed".  There was a red ring around the bite.  Bells went off.  After researching on my own I was able to find a doctor that would listen.  The doctor prescribed antibiotics and in ten days my mother felt like herself again, something that hadn't happened in ten years.  The solution is simple.  Medical care is a HUMAN RIGHT.  It is not something that is bought and sold.  Who in their right mind thought mixing profit and health care was a good idea?  The medical profession should be sought after by people who truely want to help people, not get rich.  I would rather have a doctor that was motivated by compassion than money, cures rather than treatments.  This also requires personal responsibility from people.  If you choose to live an unhealthy lifestyle, then accept the consequenses of your actions.  Genetic and infectious disease cures should be fiercely sought after and readily available.  People that drink until they black out everyday should pay for a new liver.

Your comments were worth

Your comments were worth reading until the end which has no bearing on the issue.  Most people who drink and need a new liver don't get one unless they pay for it.  They aren't put on the donor list so you need not worry about that. 

In regards to personal responsibility, if you are an avid health nut hiker and go out in the woods and pick up a tick, shouldn't you accept the consequences of your actions?  Don't be so quick to judge.  Use your anger to help make some changes not blame other sick people. 

IOWA, I'm proud to say aired

IOWA, I'm proud to say aired UOS 3 times that day on 9 different PBS channels here ;)    Thank you IOWA PBS !!

They weren't pursuaded to NOT show this tell-all documentary of our experiences with idsa, those writing the idsa guidelines, and much more.

Open Eye employee, Regan, was telling me last week that  they have given permission to PBS stations nationwide they can air this FREE FOR 2 YEARS !!  whoopie!

Have YOU called or emailed your state pbs HQ THANKING them for airing this in YOUR state?   Please do if you haven't yet; keep spreading the word about this wonderful documentary.

My chiropractor told me 1 of his other patients belongs to a documentary club, they watched UOS and had quite a discussion afterwards.

I've talked to 6 folks who saw or taped this; many commented on my letter to editor alerting them to what station/times/day it would be aired in IOWA.

THANKS OPEN EYE PRODUCTIONS for showing OUR stories/experiences through a well-done, professional film  ;)

BettyG, Iowa lyme activist

You certainly deserve a round

You certainly deserve a round of applause for your post and more specifically, your blog in general. Very high quality material

Greed and power have

Greed and power have destroyed millions of lives. Louis Pasteur was ridiculed and slandered by the medical elite of his time for having the outrageous idea that doctors could spread death between patients because they just wiped the blood of one patient on their coat and proceeded to operating on the next patient without washing their hands.He was considered a quack by his peers for blaming disease on tiny microorganisms that could not be seen by the naked eye. His outlandish quackery has saved millions of lives. I thank god for people like Pasteur and the heroic doctors in this documentary that risked everything by standing their ground against the greedy and powerful groups that tried to silence them.

My brother has been

My brother has been co-diagnosed with Lyme Disease and ALS. he has the same symptoms as the patiences in this documentary. Now I'm wondering why he isn't receiving the same aggressive treatment with antibiotics as others. Instead he is on severe pain medication that would cripple any normal man. Where do "We" turn for help?

 

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Chad, What state are you in?

Chad,

What state are you in? I know of a handfull of Lyme Literate docs in California, but maybe if you post where you are at someone knows a doctor in your state

I was not impressed by this

I was not impressed by this film in the least.  It seems more like a gigantic rant against "the man", with no mention of what specific parts of the IDSA guidelines are in error.  I would very much like to see any of the self-anointed "lyme disease experts" appearing in this film to take the time to explain first what exactly the definition of  "chronic lyme disease" is, and secondary to explain what specific portions of the IDSA guidelines they believe are in error and present research findings that contradict the research cited in the guidelines.  I suspect this will not occur any time in the near future.  It is perhaps far more shocking and appealing to portray this organization as some type of SPECTRE-esque secret society that is plotting diabolical schemes to inflict misery upon the world than to look logically at the matter.

For all those interested, I am pleased to note that the IDSA guidelines are freely available to the public for review:

http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/43/9/1089.full

By the way, for what possible reason would "Big Pharma" want to suppress the use of long-term antibiotic therapy?  Pharmaceutical companies produce intravenous antibiotics, and it would certainly not be in their best financial interests to try and stop doctors from prescribing their products.

The film was not made to

The film was not made to "impress" you.  People are being healed by those who are not impressed (or healed) by the IDSA guidelines- which is not open for debate by sumg, sanctimonious Gladys Kravitz busy bodies like you,  Butt out, and let honest physicians and their patients work together- they do very nicely without your grotesque and unwanted "opinion".

Oh, we are all quite aware of

Oh, we are all quite aware of the IDSA recommendations. ANyone of us who has ever gone to a lamestream doctor who smiled down at our "psychosomatic" agony and administered the useless Westernblot test and sent us home with a script for anti inflammatories knows very well the IDSA's USELESS guidelines that are causing misery and even death. 

I lost a friend to ALS. My husband is suffering unexplained symptoms that no specialist can understand. But he refuses to go to my Lyme specialist saying the Western blot said he didn't have Lyme disease.  This film makes me wonder now. 

WHy WOULD big pharma, and insurance companies be so resistant to recognize this pernicious epidemic?

Hmmmm. Let's see. Oh! I know!  The cure is simple, although long term, kind of like curing Hepatitis, or any other long term bacterial infectious disease.   EXPENSIVE!

That treatment could get costly for a For-Profit insurance company that would then have to pay for the millions of us chronically Lyme ridden patients that IDSA doctors have malpracticed into chronic disability.   Imagine, a proclamation that Chronic Lyme disease may be the cause of MS, ALS symptoms, chronic fatigue, fibromialgia, arthritis and more? And easily cured with a year or three of antibiotics?
Can you imagine the can of worms of law suits that would open up?

The cost to insurance companies?

The loss to big pharma who want to market Lyme Vaccines? The pet vaccine didn't work...There's BIG money in vaccines...
Best to deny the disease exists in a chronic form, let the sick people pay for their treatments if they can afford it...IF they can figure out what it is... IF they can find a doctor who will treat them appropriately.... And just to be on the safe side scare off any legitimate doctors who are actually healing people with this aggressive treatment that's working because we can't have any evidence of a cure!  Just sue their pants of and strip them of their license to practice.  WHo cares how many are crippled, disabled or die.
Disgusting.  We need a national health care system, NOT a for-profit system.

 

I am sorry to hear that you

I am sorry to hear that you were not impressed by this, agent of the IDSA.  However, thanks for sharing the link - it is so generous of you and your organization to publish this guideline avaliable for all of us to view.

Please, troll elsewhere.  Your propganda is not welcome here.  Perhaps if you had a shread of humanity left in you, review the film again and consider the diesase from the patients' point of view. 

 

 

 

I am sorry to hear that you

I am sorry to hear that you were not impressed by this, agent of the IDSA.  However, thanks for sharing the link - it is so generous of you and your organization to publish this guideline avaliable for all of us to view.

Please, troll elsewhere.  Your propganda is not welcome here.  Perhaps if you had a shread of humanity left in you, review the film again and consider the diesase from the patients' point of view. 

 

 

 

To reply to your question

To reply to your question about "why would pharmaceutical companies want to suppress the use of long-term antibiotic therapy" the answer lies in the cronic problems that were mentioned in the movie such as MS, ALS, Lupis, and so on.  Doctors will tell you that they don't know what causes these "auto immune diseases" and that there is no cure. If lyme is the cause and you are able to give a cure the cost to the pharmaceutical companies would be in the multiple billions every year. 

I have lyme as well as CNSV, my wife Crones and will be tested this week for lyme.  As this question, how much more money can pharmaceutical companies make on a lifetime of treatment for these two illness and their complication verses simple antibiotics?

By the way, I am not afraid to put my name with my thoughts.  I am tired of dealing with doctors over the last 10 years and this movie is a reflection of my personal problems.  How about you?

I wonder what scientifically

I wonder what scientifically sound "research" allegedly underlies the  guidelines, as they have been criticized for NOT having any sound scientific method based foundation to support them. Both views are being attacked on the same basis. "I'm rubber, you are glue ..." is the argument this guy makes.  The guideline writers were/are the self anointed experts.  These people attack the guidelines, as being without scientifically sound basis. You do not properly, scientifically defend the guidelines by attacking the attackers, their pointing out error in methodology is sufficient to nullify the efficacy of the guidelines. The creators and followers of the guidelines must defend them, as they are the supposed standard which is not holding up to scrutiny.  As a lawyer willing to sue doctors and insurance companies and medical boards, I say, follow the guidelines at your own professional peril. Entire industry standards can lag a reasonable standard of care and constitute negligence.  A guidelines is not an absolute safe harbor. This it tort law / negligence 101, first year of law school. Risk a misdiagnosis and deficient treatment at your own peril. The lack of basis for the "guidelines" are now well known. You can no longer rely upon them to shield you from liability. I await yet another arrogant reply. (We "trial lawyers" are just licking our chops over this one and the others that are apparently out there. This is an embarrassment to the medical community. You best clean this up yourselves before the wolves come a runnin', and stop letting arrogance and status keep getting in the way. It is not very becoming, and it only helps us when we put you on the witness stand.) -- Steppenwolf :)

The guideline has citations

The guideline has citations to the research cited.

I'm all for attacking/questioning guidelines.  This sort of thing happens all the time.  It's how newer and better guidelines get made.  The issue is that the impetus for such change must be scientifically valid experiments, not personal ancedotes.  The day when the "persistant lyme disease" movement can establish a good definition of what exactly "peristant lyme disease" is, and confirm using placebo-controlled randomized clinical trials with proper methodology that intensive antibiotic therapy is beneficial, is the day when the IDSA guidelines, or any guidelines for that matter, will change.

There really isn't anything to "defend against", becuase the film never quite explained what was wrong, only that the IDSA is evil and that Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Government, and Big (insert slogan here) who want to keep the little guy down.  Intermixed with these complaints were personal ancedotes about how intensive antibiotic therapy managed to cure people suffering from a wide variety of non-specific symptoms.

By the way, thanks for the legal advice.  When you or any other attorney win your first verdict against a practitioner on this basis please let us know.

Well, the film explained that

Well, the film explained that 'Lyme-illiterate' doctors are influenced by the IDSA, which are in turn influenced by conflicts of interest involving health insurance companies.  The IDSA has also exercised its ability to "to handpick a likeminded panel without scrutiny by or formal approval of the IDSA's oversight committee" (http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?a=2795&q=414284).  This is all shown in the results of the Connecticut Attorney General's investigation mentioned at the end; the link above will take you to the appropriate web page on the ct.gov site.

You may be wondering why pharmaceutical companies would pay the IDSA to discourage prolonged antibiotic treatment.  Antibiotic producers would not, because they would lose profit.  Maybe (and I say "maybe" without accusation) antidepressant manufacturers would, because they are prescribed by doctors who suspect that patients' complaints are caused by depression.  Antidepressants like MAOIs are also typically prescribed to anyone in constant pain whose body consumes anesthetics too quickly to be fully effective.  Maybe this is not all explained in the movie, but the movie is meant to act as a starting point for gaining 'Lyme literacy'.

Why has an attorney other than CT's Att. Gen. Richard Blumenthal probably never won a debate like this against a practitioner (never mind a whole group of practitioners)?  Because practitioners have the money for the best defense attorneys!

Oh, and Mr. Lawyer, before him?  You can say "you're welcome" now.  It's only polite.

"The issue is that the

"The issue is that the impetus for such change must be scientifically valid experiments, not personal ancedotes" I totally agree. So what can be done to ensure those patients who are suffering get more research directed towards addressing their condition and improving diagnosis and testing so as to prevent more serious sequelae later? Consider that it's known that a certain percentage of patients who are seropositive for Lyme disease and have had an EM rash - the objective hallmarks for diagnosis - can have treatment failures. If I refer to those guidelines, it states at up to 10% of patients will fail antibiotic treatment. This number is based on EARLY treatment studies. Not chronic. Not late. If 40,000 cases of Lyme disease are reported annually, that's potentially 4,000 failures; if we look at the possibility that based on 2002 CDC projections (the last time they made a projected statement of this kind, to my knowledge) the caseload is actually 6-12 times higher than that, and just level off the estimated total annual cases (including non-reported) at 240,000, then that is 24,000 people a year who may have treatment failures. I don't know what the actual numbers are, though - and there's been funding issues for epidemiology for some time. Some states have had to scale back on reporting due to sheer caseload. So getting an accurate record of cases is challenging. Is this a poor projection to make? Don't know. Explain why, though, and I'll listen. Okay, setting that aside, none of the studies conducted took into account coinfections. This is problematic, especially in highly endemic areas where coinfection or polymicrobialism is common. The guidelines themselves state, in regards to persisting symptoms, that: "The possibility that these symptoms may have been related to a tick-transmitted coinfection was not evaluated in any of the studies." While the guidelines state there is a misconception that recommended treatment courses are associated with a poor outcome, I can't help but notice the results on a number of cited studies in so far as they were mentioned in the guidelines (I admit I should probably read the original studies too, and not just their summary excerpts in the guidelines) do seem to indicate treatment failures and situations where symptoms do not resolve (effective cure). I don't know what you consider to be an effective cure rate for a disease, but in these studies where patients had late stage Lyme disease: "Patients with late Lyme disease associated with prominent neurological features also respond to antibiotic therapy. In trials conducted from 1987 through 1989, 27 adult patients with Lyme encephalopathy, polyneuropathy, or both were treated with iv ceftriaxone (2 g/d for 2 weeks) [93]. In addition to clinical signs and symptoms, outcome measures included CSF analyses and neuropsychological tests of memory. Response to therapy was usually gradual and did not begin until several months after treatment. When response was measured 6 months after treatment, 17 patients (63%) had uncomplicated improvement, 6 (22%) had improvement but then relapsed, and 4 (15%) had no change in their condition." In this example, 37% of patients had relapsed or no change/improvement in their condition. That's a pretty high failure rate in my eyes. And what does "uncomplicated improvement" mean, when the usual definition used for cure is "resolution of symptoms" or simply, "cure"? "In 1987, a case series of 7 patients with Lyme arthritis or chronic neuroborreliosis, who were refractory to oral or iv penicillin therapy were then treated with iv ceftriaxone (2 or 4 g/d for 2 weeks) [83]. All 5 patients who had arthritis responded to ceftriaxone therapy, and for 5 of the 6 patients with limb paresthesias, a reduction in symptoms and improvement of nerve conduction study findings were noted." Yes, but were their symptoms resolved? "In a subsequent study, 31 patients with Lyme arthritis or chronic neuroborreliosis were randomly assigned to receive 2 or 4 g/d of ceftriaxone for 2 weeks [84]. After treatment, 3 of the 31 patients had persistent encephalopathy, 2 had persistent neuropathy, and 3 had no diminishment of their arthritis. The overall frequency of persistent symptoms among patients was 13%, which was similar in both treatment groups." 13% of patients failed to have resolution of their symptoms, yet were considered adequately treated based on guidelines. So naturally, people ask questions about these guidelines - even before one gets to the issue of whether or not Lyme disease can be a persistent infection after antibiotic treatment. And these studies in the 2006 guidelines date back to the late 1980s - only a few years after the disease had been discovered in the first place. There aren't many newer studies cited, nor have they been conducted on newer antibiotics or combinations of antibiotics or on patients with Lyme disease plus a coinfection. We are simply lacking the research here.

No evidence for persistent

No evidence for persistent infection?

Start here: http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/written_testimony/15%20Liegner-Chronic%20Persistent%20Infection.pdf

 

The history of medicine is rife with conflict between old guard and new thinking. There is nothing new in the controversies between IDSA and ILADS. The extremes of both positions are troubling. What we need are research teams composed of open-minded folks from both "camps." 

One of the reasons I like reading Dr. Liegner's work is because he is a physicianly man; a critical thinker and a clinician-scientist of the archetypal sort.

One advances clinical medicine in three ways: the classic, laboratory and basic research; placebo-controlled, double-blinded treatment study; and careful, thoughtful, detailed clinical, bedside observations----well-done anectodal reports.

Our minds need to be like semi-permeable membranes: open enough to let good ideas in, and selective enough to keep the garbage out. And I might add, the wisdom to know the difference.

 

 

I have looked at the ILADS

I have looked at the ILADS guidelines, and again there appeared to be a heavy reliance on ancedotal evidence, although to their credit there were no complaints against "Big (insert slogan here)" anywhere in their work.  If ILADS were to run a good clinical trial comparing placebo to antibiotics in patients suffering from these symptoms I would certainly be interested in it.

Clearly, you are clueless -

Clearly, you are clueless - even after watching the film. If you ever get Lyme disease (chances are high, considering it's an epidemic), you'll stop promoting the IDSA guidlines ....

And once you're bed-ridden and your life is more or less over because doctors couldn't or didn't want to help you, you might remember this movie ....

Big words for an everyday

Big words for an everyday person, sounds more like Shapiro and Wormer from the movie to me...If you want to more about it then GO READ, or better yet go find a tick to attatch to yourself, wait until you are really sick, and then try and find help.  Live the life of a Lyme sufferer then you will have first hand knowledge of what the movie was about. 

Why they must censor this

Why they must censor this kind of television broadcast? I think UNDER OUR SKIN was very useful for viewers because it informs us a lot of education. Also, it share us patient experience that might be beneficial to the others.

Actually, I disappointed of this case. But, let us hope for better effect. God Bless you all.

If you are trying to get the

If you are trying to get the word out, be sure to let friends and family know about the accessiblity of this film on Netflix. I saw it on PBS, and later watched it with my husband on Netflix. He agreed to pass along the information to his many coworkers as we live in prime tick territory in New England. I also shared the information with our school district's Director of Health Services/Nursing to get the word out to schools and parents. We need a grassroots movement to get the information out there.

Netflix for me, too.

Netflix for me, too.

Its' all basically the same.

Its' all basically the same. The IDSA is more than likely owned by Big Pharma and the the networks are owned by the same people (Rockefellers, Murdochs, etc...) that want to keep people in the dark. What has been happening to the Lyme Doctors has been happening to Dr. Andy Wakefield. They try to shut them up so the truth can not emerge. But as people wake up, the truth will emerge and in the end, the CDC, the IDSA, and the networks will lose because we are not as stupid as they think. http://www.freedrwsticker.com/index.html I would strongly suggest people read the book 'Murder by Injection, the Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America' by Eustace Mullins to really see what is happening and why. http://www.apfn.net/rockefeller.htm

The IDSA believes that lyme

The IDSA believes that lyme disease is under their specialty and therefore it should be under their absolute control. They would be better served to create new and better testing, make lyme disease a manditory reportable disease and search for agents which are bacteriocidal rather than bacteriostatic. If lyme were required to be reported, we would better know the prevalence of lyme disease in America. Have they forgotten what this modern version of Hippocratic oath says: "I will not be ashamed to say I know not, nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery. I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death... this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God."

desperate, desperate

desperate, desperate measures. I am continually amazed by the efforts IDSA puts forth to discredit patients that they clearly have never been able to help and this brilliant film that finally gives all of us a voice and a path to health. Clearly a desperate attempt to silence our voices.

how do these infectious

how do these infectious disease doctors sleep at night?  It's only a matter of time until one of them, or they see someone they love get this awful disease

 

the infectious disease society is such a joke.  get real jobs.

1) My darling husband just

1) My darling husband just noted that nothing increases sales like censorship. Make sure you have plenty of copies ready to send out. :) 2) It was suggested to me a few weeks ago to join IDSA and be an active participant. At first I was stunned, but on further reflection it may be an excellent idea. I'm forwarding the suggestion for your consideration and dialog. Very best, Janet

I'd like to say I'm shocked

I'd like to say I'm shocked by this news, but it is unfortunately par for the course with IDSA and their affiliates. Following a similar strategy to that used by big tobacco and the insurance industry, the goal is and has always been to silence and destroy the credibility of critics in order to remove them as obstacles to an organization's total dominance over a particular marketplace. This is why 40+ LLMD's have been put on trial across the country. It's why IDSA affiliated researchers spend time trolling on Lyme boards denigrating patients and sometimes even attempting to interfere with their insurance coverage. It's why researchers whose studies suggest that chronic Lyme exists are shut out of scientific conferences and excluded from guideline writing panels. It's why IDSA fights against every state law that would protect doctors from prosecution for choosing not to follow the IDSA's Lyme disease guidelines. When your goal is market dominance rather than sound science or the public good, you don't want a dialog with the other side. You don't want the public to know that another side even exists. You want the other side to disappear. Pressuring PBS not to air an award winning documentary that presents the other side is one way you attempt to make the other side disappear. I sure hope this isn't why the primary PBS station in NY, WNET Channel 13, has been refusing to air Under Our Skin.

Oregon Public Broadcasting

Oregon Public Broadcasting has apparently given in to pressure from IDSA proponents. They have scheduled showings at 1:00 AM and 2:30 AM on weekday mornings when nobody will be able to watch. Many have written and called the station to protest but there has been no change. Oregon is home to David Gilbert, a past IDSA president who works at an HMO, teaches in the state's medical university, and influences Lyme disease protocols in the state. Kaiser, that avoids the Lyme question by refusing to diagnose in the first place, is the largest HMO in the Portland/SW Washington area. They do not want Lyme disease recognized here and prefer their members remain ignorant. I am virtually certain that pressure from IDSA entities, financial and otherwise, had much to do with this ridiculous and deceitful scheduling. Excellent commentary!

This is unbelievable.

This is unbelievable. Silencing information about Lyme Disease only leaves more people unaware. Having it myself, it's been important for family and friends to see the film so they better understand my experience and the difficulities I've had with access to care and insurance. Also, in my small area in Idaho, there are now cases of Lyme and doctors and people aren't aware and don't know what to do. I called my Govenor's office, the PBS station, Facebooked the airing of film, put it on my blog to let as many people as I can know. That blog post has had the most hits since I posted it! People want to know! There's no more silencing. The ticks carrying Lyme and co-infections are everywhere (statement from my specialist). I say keep up with your PBS station and encourage them not to fold. You guys are one of my heros in this battle. I am so grateful for this documentary. I know it is saving others from suffering this disease.

I'd rather see any

I'd rather see any disagreement settled with a response rather than attempting to silence discussion.

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